What ABout DeBuffs? Your Input.

This thread is about What You Think about Debuffs Only. In Or Out? PCS Delay will stay put, as it add another layer to pvp. You input about DeBuffs will be resloved by popular responce here.

i think we should remove em from game then have them rare drops ! or leave them in game but lower the hit rate's and make em harder to get! both ways works. words from mike and I

Ive always hated debuff lapis .

I had said in another post ... I think the only reason for the existence of PCS is that there are debuffs ... If there were no debuffs there would also be the need to PCS! Could all play using pots existing of abolishing and dispel.

I do not think bad idea to be rare! But if this happened, they should first be removed.


Regards.


Lancelot

Well, pvp is very difficult when you have and VERY hard to kill someone (because he will run) dark or light, debuff (I do not like) but it would help, even with the delay in PCS will be difficult, players with high defenses (priets / orc build rec) are practically immortal, it would be better to improve PVP REMOVE pcs. NO REMOVE DEBUFF

Please remove these debufs very annoying in pvp, my vote is yes.

Debuffs are so necesary to kill full rec/abs toons (there is no only priests/orcs using them if not ask... well all u know who use this links)... and now a good and smart team can get easy killz even if the killed one is a strong toon...

Ppl If u dont like debuffs is cuz u dont like die and remember this game is for kill and be killed play smart and u can kill more times than the times that u are killed....

For me all is balanced (need lots of changes for make this server the best but atm is good) now and ready for uber pvp moments... we just need more ppl....

i agree with dagoneth now that the pcs are limited u want the debuffs out to not use the old pots lol but still will have to use them to fight assasin/rangers. debuffs were in game before the pcs and ppl were ok with that. some ppl still uses poisons lapises to kill some mobs/bosses like the ones in DD1 for lvl. no poison= hours and hours to lvl at bees so ppl would lose the desire to plvl, also can be used to kill full rec priests, even if u link pain/blindside or stuns lapises the chance to stun is not 100% i just fought someone with both lapises in his weap and i got stun 2-3 times in 10 hits ofc the lvl7s ones give more % but they use 2 spaces to link so u link debuff and u might stun target but u ll lose atk power, sometimes stuns keeps the ppl from escaping when they are about to die.

From I think: Debuff are very useful now that PCS have recharge time.Before it is very hard to kill someone because they can spam PCS which means debuff are useless.If Debuff lapisis will be removing from server,everything will go back to just like before that it will be hard for players to die even if PCS has 1 minute recharge time.Dispel pots will remove skills(stun) from them and RUN. Keep PCS delay and Keep Debuffs! That way there are less HITs and RUNs!!

i agree with DL take them out or make them hard to farm. lower the drop rate.

i agree with seba and see same time to wht lancelot said, Lapis debufs not hard to drops like angel and dragon said caise ther always MM with bosses lapis debufs ( Toxin/poision/pain/blind/freezing...) all unitl vs full rec/abs remove lapis debuf meaning rec/abs still like ago when pcs not recharging...

PCS for lapis debufs and pot dispel too help. Toxin help alot players for lvling too fast ^^

Not agree with remove lapis debufs

Why we should remove these debuffs ?

Debuffs are a good thing in game And we have PCSs to dispel them no reason to remove them .

That's my opinion.

By Shaar, Enjoy.

This is what i think.


!.. Remove Debuffs in game
2.. make them alot harder to get and make them alot harder to link... and remove all debuffs from game first, AABSOLUTELY ALL
3..first remove em, then added again, then make them to get alot harder..


some more things . n. Cant get debuffs from GS pay.


this is allw hat i tihnk ... 3 tips


Regards WLS/JHS .. Pew Die Pie

I think we need 1 debuff per weap for pcs with recharge 5sec 15 sec is longest and debuff per weap is good. But dont delete debuff with skill

to make everone happy here its best to take out Debuffs then reinstal them with lower drop rate for example poision higher rate cz players need them to lvl up. as pain/blind/freezing/Toxin much lower drops and bosses for them to drop it ,this will help players to keep busy,and no more GS payment for debuffs

Talking about pvp, Remove all debuff lapises If your going to remove the PCS from game, If thats not the case, remove debuff lapises dont have any case lol
Actually debuff lapises are nothing cuz the effect will be dispeled inmediatily by PCS, So whats the point of use debuff lapises in pvp ? Only are usefull againts mobs / bosses.

Trust me playing with the 3 old pots. Orange / Yellow / Blue, The pvp will be better and now the skills will be skills, wont be a .05 sec effect of skill anymore.

Remove PCS, Debuffs lv8 , Cantabilean / Holywater pots of Borderland, UT pot lv1-3, Abs lv4-8 and Keep the abs lv9 and may be Toxin lv6 - 7 ( The farmers / lvlers need them )

Those 3 pots are supposted to dispel the effect of the skills, not for dispel rare debuff lapises who dont exist in any other server XDD

Removing the PCS / Debuff lapises, the game will recover sense again, The skills will be skills again, Thats why is hard to kill someone here, cuz the skills dont have effects here

reading some posts about this subjet, i think the remove of debuff would only benefist the players that are full in pvp, the ones that cant be on everyday would have disvantage because whitout them they will need to get full and that means to need more time on game.
i understand the problem about pvp but i think this would not be the solution in fact I get the feeling by some forum post, you have an idea that pvp is stronger than kill them all, leaving aside the fact that if we truly work together in pvp, with articulation of all kinds, good results are achieved.

well at least I see it

As much as I hate debuff lapis. Removing them would make Archers and Rangers almost useless in pvp. However the hit rate on them is extremly high. Since you have put a cooldown on pcs I think its fair that you put a cool down on debuff lapises aswell.

in front of the latency of pcs it would make more sense to stop the debuffs ...

but I am also part of people who think that the problem should not arise, if the highest ranking would really help the lower ranks ...
pvp is a matter of presences and interest,

the pvp today is what? : A large group of little lights officers who are fighting against a small group of very senior officers darks ...
I see only one thing a small group of trouble and darks that a large group of lights that do not kill ...

start by making strong unions on each side and I think potions, skills, debuffs will no longer be a problem ...

Xena is exactly right in what she says. And for all of you that are saying debuffs are annoying...guess what? They are supposed to be annoying...that is the very reason for their existance !! The formula has been tried and tested on many servers over many years with great success. Once you start to scramble around, desperately changing the game you are heading down the wrong road. Adapt to suit the game, not adapt the game to suit you.

Kindest regards,

Code-Red

removing debuff wont make more pvp it will only make ppl dont want to plvl new players anymore even if u lower the hp of bees removing debuffs its useless cause linking them wont make u invincible or anything u can always use dispel pots

Let see and ask wht PCS exsit and why Piests/Orcs too? finaly is for lapis debufs ( pots dispels same) lapis lvl6 easy to drops but hard with % link , no payment GS lapis debufs dnt agree with Dragon cause GS with this helping them guild and friendly side always when they asked them for debufs lapis , lapis debufs in weapons will take place ( dex or str lapis finaly meaning low dex or attack and debufs help to kill easy full rec/abs link like piests/orcs mage/pagan...

Same prblm of pvp missed support players to side and to low players and us said xena highter rank cant be solo vs raid full piests/orcs and 5 or 6 so be raisonable for highter rank not meaning hight attack or def but who have good reroll can fight hight rank dude ^^

Pvp need igual or thing like this not PCS or debufs things

debuffs should be limited as it gets limited ppl work and farm for them even pvp for them!
throwing hundreds of debuffs wont help nothing as nothing is to hard to get in SK
i see ppl sit in ah and say hmm nothing to do,some likes farming as others like pvp,
So would you Like to sit in Ah do nothing, or go and farm somthing that everones wants Debuffs!
this way we get does ppl that farm into some action of pvp and such, and GS's should be proud to be a GS not to be a GS for the goods!!!!! cz its not fair for others GS waits and gets stuff as other farm their ass off to get things they need, and the way i see it you guys wil never finish making up your minds and what you think this will never ever work!!, so take a side!
1:Limited Debuff and NO GS payment for it
2:no debuffs
3:leave Debuffs be in game !cz debuff not making PVP more it has made it less

cz it was much funner farming it 1 year ago!

so just VOTE 1 2 or 3

and think how it was 1 year ago in SK and

We do Test for One Week.. Or until QQin overflow here... Dbuffs are turned off at the server. we see what happens.....

this test is good in pvp but when some1 need debuff for CS this bad. Why no put debuff only for mob and 1 debuff by wep for pvp ? this not useless orc/priest is immortal if they have good rec because we cant kill them