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GRB SUX? We Need New Grb!!!
Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:52 am by russell0659
GRB has become so boring, and with the know cheats and exploits is by no means fair.
I propose i completely redo GRB with Harder Mobs and more GRB Points. Maybe even A Quest that gives GRB Points. Some Rare Items that only drop in GRB. And Some more Guild Stuff.
What you think? Tell Me Here!
I propose i completely redo GRB with Harder Mobs and more GRB Points. Maybe even A Quest that gives GRB Points. Some Rare Items that only drop in GRB. And Some more Guild Stuff.
What you think? Tell Me Here!
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Check this, normal attack 19k?
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Doofi/Smoke
ynridr
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Check this, normal attack 19k?
Check this guys, and pls give me some explanation.
See hitman got me on right ele, and he hit me aprox 5k normal hit.
But check the msg after he used apocalyptic shot & rapid shot.
Apo got me 19k dmg, then he used rapid shot (3x attack), deal 2x5.6k dmg, cuz the 2nd missed. But check the dmg after that rapid shot, 19k again? how could something like that happened with normal hit. Normal hit (critical) could only give 10k-11k max atm right? (and that's against someone with low def)
Check after that 19k hit, he only hit me 5.5k.
See hitman got me on right ele, and he hit me aprox 5k normal hit.
But check the msg after he used apocalyptic shot & rapid shot.
Apo got me 19k dmg, then he used rapid shot (3x attack), deal 2x5.6k dmg, cuz the 2nd missed. But check the dmg after that rapid shot, 19k again? how could something like that happened with normal hit. Normal hit (critical) could only give 10k-11k max atm right? (and that's against someone with low def)
Check after that 19k hit, he only hit me 5.5k.
ynridr- Posts : 53
Join date : 2011-06-29
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it seems like the dmg list is a bit messed up. I see that u got 2x 19.8k dmg. Apo shot can hit u twice i think u know that. and it seems like its a bit messed up maybe there was a lagg ingame. I dont think thats a hack that happend to me many times too.
A hint on that is that u tried to atttack but u wasnt able.
A hint on that is that u tried to atttack but u wasnt able.
Doofi/Smoke- Forum Admin
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
It still doesn't make sense for me smoky. Yea maybe u're right about apo could hit twice like when i use my shadow attack but it nver happened to me that the damage is done separated by other skill. Check the dmg, Apo 19k - rapid shot 5.6kx2 - 19k.
Ranger Shadow Attack, 5x attack power, lets say a ranger have 4.5k attack power, using the skill against someone who have 2k def, with correct ele & critical hit (based on luck), that ranger could hit about 26k - 32k dmg. But the case on this server is i nver see any skill that could hit more than 30k in 1 hit (slasher could exceed more than 30k but its 10k x 3 hit). Even with my shadow attack that hit twice it max dmg against mobs only 15k x 2hit. When against player ofcourse it will be less cuz of dmg absorption.
Archer's Apocalytic Shot, 4x attack power - 5sec stun, lets say with same condition as above, it will hit 21k - 25k dmg. Even if hitman is a really uber hunter with 5k+ attack power, there is no way he could hit 19.9k x 2hit dmg with apo shot. He need like 6k attack power to do that 40k dmg using apo shot.
And about the stun, yes i was stunned ("Cannot Attack" msg), but after that i could attack again, check when he used rapid shot, i tried attack shaar but missed.
I'm not saying if he was hacking or something. I'm just looking for a good explanation about this. U said it happened to u to many times, then there is a possibility that the skill is bugged and it has to be fixed.
Ranger Shadow Attack, 5x attack power, lets say a ranger have 4.5k attack power, using the skill against someone who have 2k def, with correct ele & critical hit (based on luck), that ranger could hit about 26k - 32k dmg. But the case on this server is i nver see any skill that could hit more than 30k in 1 hit (slasher could exceed more than 30k but its 10k x 3 hit). Even with my shadow attack that hit twice it max dmg against mobs only 15k x 2hit. When against player ofcourse it will be less cuz of dmg absorption.
Archer's Apocalytic Shot, 4x attack power - 5sec stun, lets say with same condition as above, it will hit 21k - 25k dmg. Even if hitman is a really uber hunter with 5k+ attack power, there is no way he could hit 19.9k x 2hit dmg with apo shot. He need like 6k attack power to do that 40k dmg using apo shot.
And about the stun, yes i was stunned ("Cannot Attack" msg), but after that i could attack again, check when he used rapid shot, i tried attack shaar but missed.
I'm not saying if he was hacking or something. I'm just looking for a good explanation about this. U said it happened to u to many times, then there is a possibility that the skill is bugged and it has to be fixed.
ynridr- Posts : 53
Join date : 2011-06-29
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he apo shot can hit twice but that is rare and based on many luck i played hunter long time and double hits with this skills is realy rare and thats why that skill can hit these massive dmg realy easy i once killed a good fighter with 1x pantery vision which has hitted twice 25k dmg means 50k from 1 skill that fcking many. i dont think that skill is bugged i just thinkg there was a server lagg which had messed the dmg list a bit up.
Doofi/Smoke- Forum Admin
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
19k 5x2k 19k sounds to me like somebody is speed hacking or glitching. If he was lucky to get the double dmg and somehow managed to fire 2 shots before the second dmg was made this would explain it. I dont think server would actually delay dmg. This guys attack speed must be off the roof.
The weird thing is it says that Hitmans Apo attack missed the target.
Here is my theory. He fires Apo than normal attack before the apo is registered (this is only possible via speed hack) and misses hes normal attack. First apo dmg is now registered but he fires 2 more shots before the second one is registered. This is very fishy and logs dont lie. I support this claim.
The weird thing is it says that Hitmans Apo attack missed the target.
Here is my theory. He fires Apo than normal attack before the apo is registered (this is only possible via speed hack) and misses hes normal attack. First apo dmg is now registered but he fires 2 more shots before the second one is registered. This is very fishy and logs dont lie. I support this claim.
Quack- Posts : 140
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
Quack wrote:19k 5x2k 19k sounds to me like somebody is speed hacking or glitching. If he was lucky to get the double dmg and somehow managed to fire 2 shots before the second dmg was made this would explain it. I dont think server would actually delay dmg. This guys attack speed must be off the roof.
The weird thing is it says that Hitmans Apo attack missed the target.
Here is my theory. He fires Apo than normal attack before the apo is registered (this is only possible via speed hack) and misses hes normal attack. First apo dmg is now registered but he fires 2 more shots before the second one is registered. This is very fishy and logs dont lie. I support this claim.
Wow thank you Quack, you notice that the Apo missed the target, I didn't notice that before. I was agree with smoky before, that maybe the server had a lag during that time, but after i see that i'm looking for better explanation now.
ynridr- Posts : 53
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
i've got an idea of how it could've happened.. what Smoky said could've happaned, there was 2 shots and they were delayed, but i have an idea how the 2nd shot was delayed. y'know when you run through a dungeon and a mob shoots a magic arrow but it follows you around at a slow pace? also happens with Mages/Pagans with magic arrows occassionally. that may have happened, o the 2d shot wasn't delayed it had been bugged and slown down. ofcourse i may be completely wrong and Hitman coulda been glitching idk, just a theory
Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
The log has been changed on the client. You have made mistakes Silv. I wont tell you your mistakes so you can fix them to scam others. I will have a word with russell to have you banned from this server for doing this.
You have used the data the server send you to edit your chat log to resend the data to your client making it appear on your screen. I can see it now, how could be so blind... thats what happens when i stay up till 6 am. Server lag means all people will be locked from Chatting, attacking, potting and buffing or even getting on mount. Which means you will not send any data to server. I can see why smoky would only be able to say its server lag. Explain why you did this silv because if you dont i will talk to russell and trust me he knows am right when am right.
You have used the data the server send you to edit your chat log to resend the data to your client making it appear on your screen. I can see it now, how could be so blind... thats what happens when i stay up till 6 am. Server lag means all people will be locked from Chatting, attacking, potting and buffing or even getting on mount. Which means you will not send any data to server. I can see why smoky would only be able to say its server lag. Explain why you did this silv because if you dont i will talk to russell and trust me he knows am right when am right.
Quack- Posts : 140
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Well any of you who know me will know I am a good pvper....my " hit every button until they die " approach lacks sublety but due to my build works well for me, and the technicalities just bore me so I don't look into them too much. What Quack says may well be true I have no idea, but I would say, if a person is hacking, would they go on forums and make such a fuss about another player and risk getting found out? I have no desire to hack, but I am sure I could find out how if I wanted to, although if I did, like any knowledgable, crafty person, I would go in there, get my kills and keep my head down and keep a low profile wouldn't you? My opinion may mean nothing, but may be worth taking into account when judging a situation? Just a logical look at things rather than a technical one. Also there was no pvp at time of writing so I had to find something to do lol. .
Kindest regards,
Code xxx
Kindest regards,
Code xxx
Code-Red- Posts : 52
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
Well, look's like we gotta wait for Russ to check this. But i'll tell my theory, also.
It make's no sense reporting some one if u got ur OWN hack on lol that is.. stupid isn't it?
Make's no Sense reporting ur self, by trying reporting some one else.
Silv, is an honest player. He did help much in game, and in forum's.
He's a great PvP also.
Now QuacK, i know u got great knowledge about this, and i won't mess around cuz im n00b for this stuff.
But also, can't tell anything for sure before Russ check it.. :O
It make's no sense reporting some one if u got ur OWN hack on lol that is.. stupid isn't it?
Make's no Sense reporting ur self, by trying reporting some one else.
Silv, is an honest player. He did help much in game, and in forum's.
He's a great PvP also.
Now QuacK, i know u got great knowledge about this, and i won't mess around cuz im n00b for this stuff.
But also, can't tell anything for sure before Russ check it.. :O
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
Venom hit it on the nail when he identified the problem. The missle was delayed and client display is often glitched when there is lag between the system logs and the client current state. And incorrect data gets displayed to the client screen. The records indicate no foul play. The Main Problem is the size of the loggs. I have not cleaned the loggs in several weeks and im goin to to do that today.
russell0659- System Admin
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
My theory goes down the toilet Sorry Silv i guess i dont know shit.
Quack- Posts : 140
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
Wow, I have no idea what u were talking about Quack, I was just looking for some explanation..
Thanks for Russell that already check the situation and give us explanation. And thanks to Smoky, Crazy, Code-Red, & Venom (i guess ) too that also trying to figure out what happened.
Its ok Quack that now we have the answer.
Thanks for Russell that already check the situation and give us explanation. And thanks to Smoky, Crazy, Code-Red, & Venom (i guess ) too that also trying to figure out what happened.
Its ok Quack that now we have the answer.
ynridr- Posts : 53
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thats a wonder :p na just kidding ur explanation was good ven^^
Doofi/Smoke- Forum Admin
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Re: Check this, normal attack 19k?
it's like a 1 in 2 million chance for both accidental shot + slown down shot but i guess it was possible
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